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		<title>By: Doogie</title>
		<link>http://www.tech-evangelist.com/2007/05/11/mozilla-thunderbird-mailing-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-12608</link>
		<dc:creator>Doogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andy

The single addresses and mailing lists are two different things. There is no association between the two. If you want the addresses in a mailing lists to change, you have to change the address in the mailing list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andy</p>
<p>The single addresses and mailing lists are two different things. There is no association between the two. If you want the addresses in a mailing lists to change, you have to change the address in the mailing list.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Chisholm</title>
		<link>http://www.tech-evangelist.com/2007/05/11/mozilla-thunderbird-mailing-lists/comment-page-1/#comment-12585</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Chisholm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an address book of club members and have created various mailing lists i.e. All members, Board Members, Project A, Project B etc.

If I change a members email address in the Address Book it doesn&#039;t change in the mailing list which is what I would have expected.
 
Am I doing something wrong or is this how Thunderbird treats mailing lists ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an address book of club members and have created various mailing lists i.e. All members, Board Members, Project A, Project B etc.</p>
<p>If I change a members email address in the Address Book it doesn&#8217;t change in the mailing list which is what I would have expected.</p>
<p>Am I doing something wrong or is this how Thunderbird treats mailing lists ?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:

Brilliant! I just ran a short (20 name test) with one variation: Tbird3 on OS X recognizes Apple&#039;s Address Book as a data source. Mac users can group your addresses using Address Book&#039;s distribution lists (the leftmost pane in the Address Book window) to create the groupings.

Again, my hat&#039;s off to you, David!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>Brilliant! I just ran a short (20 name test) with one variation: Tbird3 on OS X recognizes Apple&#8217;s Address Book as a data source. Mac users can group your addresses using Address Book&#8217;s distribution lists (the leftmost pane in the Address Book window) to create the groupings.</p>
<p>Again, my hat&#8217;s off to you, David!</p>
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		<title>By: David Taber</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Taber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have successfully used Thunderbird (Eudora/Penelope) for mailing lists of up to 1000 members per shot.  The limit my actually be imposed by my ISP, I dunno.  No, this isn&#039;t spam:  it&#039;s my newsletter.

Here&#039;s the procedure:
   - Set up individuals in your address book.  You don&#039;t need to use the &quot;mailing list&quot; grouping.
   - Find a field in the Address Book that you never use (like &quot;Department&quot;)
   - Put a value in each person&#039;s &quot;Department&quot; field indicating which mailing lists you&#039;d like them to participate in
   - When you want to do a mailing, bring up the address book and sort by &quot;Department&quot;.  You&#039;ll see all your mailing list participants in &quot;mailing list&quot; order
   - Open a new T&#039;Bird email message compose window
   - Set the address field type to &quot;Bcc:&quot; (using pull-down mechanism)
   - Highlight as many addresses as you want from the Address book window
   - Drag the highligted list, drop it onto the address area of the new mail
   - When you let go of the mouse, go get coffee.  
   - Drink it slowly
   - When you come back, you&#039;ll see all the addresses on one line of the email compose window&#039;s address area.  Have no fear
   - Compose your message
   - Hit the send button.  Go get more coffee.
   - During the send process, all the email addresses will be parsed by T&#039;Bird and you&#039;ll have hundreds of BCC: lines each with one address
   - The mail will be sent out with a To: line reading &quot;undisclosed recipients&quot; -- and all of your list will get the mail
   - If you look in the Sent mailbox, you&#039;ll see the mail recipients all listed in the Bcc: line</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have successfully used Thunderbird (Eudora/Penelope) for mailing lists of up to 1000 members per shot.  The limit my actually be imposed by my ISP, I dunno.  No, this isn&#8217;t spam:  it&#8217;s my newsletter.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the procedure:<br />
   &#8211; Set up individuals in your address book.  You don&#8217;t need to use the &#8220;mailing list&#8221; grouping.<br />
   &#8211; Find a field in the Address Book that you never use (like &#8220;Department&#8221;)<br />
   &#8211; Put a value in each person&#8217;s &#8220;Department&#8221; field indicating which mailing lists you&#8217;d like them to participate in<br />
   &#8211; When you want to do a mailing, bring up the address book and sort by &#8220;Department&#8221;.  You&#8217;ll see all your mailing list participants in &#8220;mailing list&#8221; order<br />
   &#8211; Open a new T&#8217;Bird email message compose window<br />
   &#8211; Set the address field type to &#8220;Bcc:&#8221; (using pull-down mechanism)<br />
   &#8211; Highlight as many addresses as you want from the Address book window<br />
   &#8211; Drag the highligted list, drop it onto the address area of the new mail<br />
   &#8211; When you let go of the mouse, go get coffee.<br />
   &#8211; Drink it slowly<br />
   &#8211; When you come back, you&#8217;ll see all the addresses on one line of the email compose window&#8217;s address area.  Have no fear<br />
   &#8211; Compose your message<br />
   &#8211; Hit the send button.  Go get more coffee.<br />
   &#8211; During the send process, all the email addresses will be parsed by T&#8217;Bird and you&#8217;ll have hundreds of BCC: lines each with one address<br />
   &#8211; The mail will be sent out with a To: line reading &#8220;undisclosed recipients&#8221; &#8212; and all of your list will get the mail<br />
   &#8211; If you look in the Sent mailbox, you&#8217;ll see the mail recipients all listed in the Bcc: line</p>
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		<title>By: Doogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Grum

You can import and export mailing lists. The following tutorial pretty much covers it:

http://www.wfu.edu/~matthews/misc/thunderbird/lists/sharing.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Grum</p>
<p>You can import and export mailing lists. The following tutorial pretty much covers it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wfu.edu/~matthews/misc/thunderbird/lists/sharing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wfu.edu/~matthews/misc/thunderbird/lists/sharing.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way of sharing mailing lists quickly and easily? 
I have created a number of lists for various departments/groups/hierarchies within the company and want my colleague to be able to use the same lists (and why not the same names)
any hints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way of sharing mailing lists quickly and easily?<br />
I have created a number of lists for various departments/groups/hierarchies within the company and want my colleague to be able to use the same lists (and why not the same names)<br />
any hints?</p>
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		<title>By: Doogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are going to do mass e-mails, you might want to look into something other than Thunderbird. It is not really designed to do that. 

aweber.com is a popular online e-mail management system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to do mass e-mails, you might want to look into something other than Thunderbird. It is not really designed to do that. </p>
<p>aweber.com is a popular online e-mail management system.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m new to Thunderbird, and like the correspondent above, having a difficult time with mailing lists. I can&#039;t drag more than one address at a time over, and I&#039;ve got hundreds of them (all of whom have given permission to be on my mailing list, so it&#039;s not spam). It was very simple in Netscape Mail, just drag and drop the names into the list. 

I&#039;m also having a difficult time with blind carbon copy. I&#039;m bound by privacy legislation to not disclose the recipients email addresses to others on the list, so I have to use BCC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to Thunderbird, and like the correspondent above, having a difficult time with mailing lists. I can&#8217;t drag more than one address at a time over, and I&#8217;ve got hundreds of them (all of whom have given permission to be on my mailing list, so it&#8217;s not spam). It was very simple in Netscape Mail, just drag and drop the names into the list. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also having a difficult time with blind carbon copy. I&#8217;m bound by privacy legislation to not disclose the recipients email addresses to others on the list, so I have to use BCC.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cohen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone, then,  recommend a really simple email mass mail program
to use with Thunderbird and the Mac, for handling a list of about
600 - 800 email contacts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone, then,  recommend a really simple email mass mail program<br />
to use with Thunderbird and the Mac, for handling a list of about<br />
600 &#8211; 800 email contacts?</p>
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		<title>By: TE</title>
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		<dc:creator>TE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Miki

I have not been able to find any information about a limit imposed by Thunderbird for the number of e-mail addresses that you can use in a mailing list. However, there is very likely a limit that is imposed to prevent its use by spammers. Although your list is legitimate, you can&#039;t explain that to a software program. 

I used to use Eudora and the limit with that was 10. If you tried to send a message to more than 10 e-mail addresses, none of them would go out and there were no error messages indicating that they did not go out. 

There is another issue that you may be dealing with. Hosting companies have been installing systems that limit the number of e-mails an account can send within an hour. This is a serious issue with hosting companies because e-mail spammers set up an account and send out millions of spam messages, which typically gets the hosting companies IP addresses added to spam block lists. Check with your hosting company to see if they are imposing an hourly limit. 

You might want to experiment with multiple lists with smaller numbers of e-mail addresses in each. I don&#039;t see a way to prevent the problem with invalid e-mail addresses. You will need to review those. Watch for commas used in place of periods. Commas are used to separate e-mails in a list and will probably break any e-mail list when they are used in an e-mail address. 

Your best solution might be to look for one of the hundreds of mailing list manager systems that are available. Some of these are installed on your PC, while others are web based.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Miki</p>
<p>I have not been able to find any information about a limit imposed by Thunderbird for the number of e-mail addresses that you can use in a mailing list. However, there is very likely a limit that is imposed to prevent its use by spammers. Although your list is legitimate, you can&#8217;t explain that to a software program. </p>
<p>I used to use Eudora and the limit with that was 10. If you tried to send a message to more than 10 e-mail addresses, none of them would go out and there were no error messages indicating that they did not go out. </p>
<p>There is another issue that you may be dealing with. Hosting companies have been installing systems that limit the number of e-mails an account can send within an hour. This is a serious issue with hosting companies because e-mail spammers set up an account and send out millions of spam messages, which typically gets the hosting companies IP addresses added to spam block lists. Check with your hosting company to see if they are imposing an hourly limit. </p>
<p>You might want to experiment with multiple lists with smaller numbers of e-mail addresses in each. I don&#8217;t see a way to prevent the problem with invalid e-mail addresses. You will need to review those. Watch for commas used in place of periods. Commas are used to separate e-mails in a list and will probably break any e-mail list when they are used in an e-mail address. </p>
<p>Your best solution might be to look for one of the hundreds of mailing list manager systems that are available. Some of these are installed on your PC, while others are web based.</p>
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